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Old 06-02-2010, 05:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Can we play 20 guesses as to who may have pups available rather than name just one breeder? LOL
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Old 06-02-2010, 05:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
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On a more serious note...does this mean there will be no posting of rescue dogs available? It seems to me we're headed down a rocky road here.
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Old 06-02-2010, 05:39 PM   #13 (permalink)
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On a more serious note...does this mean there will be no posting of rescue dogs available? It seems to me we're headed down a rocky road here.
No..the rescue section is staying as is. I don't think we mentioned anything about the Rescue Section.
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May I make a suggestion? Since some members have said that graphic posts or pictures (such as ones about puppymills, etc.) upset them, can we have a rule requiring us to post a warning about graphic content in the title?
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*sigh* Do we really need more rules? Pretty soon we'll be having to re-reading the rules for every post we make because we can't remember them all.
Did you see this thread, Crystal? Many of our members have previously requested a warning be posted about graphic/upsetting content in posts.

http://spoiledmaltese.com/forum/72-s...e-request.html

The other dog forums I belong to have such a rule.
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No..the rescue section is staying as is. I don't think we mentioned anything about the Rescue Section.
So people come here because they want help in finding a maltese puppy and no one is allowed to give them any direction except to point them to the AMA website with our hands over our eyes and mouthes. Then let's all jump all over them if they make a mistake.

never mind.

You don't have to worry about me, I won't break the rules....but I guess I should go read them, I may already be breaking one....
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Old 06-02-2010, 06:49 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Thank you for making the rules much clearer than before, Yung!!

[QUOTE=Crystal&Zoe;1787012 While I'm very happy with most of these rules, the one about posting about reputable breeders who have available
puppies is not one of them. I think we are doing a great disservice to those who are coming to SM to find out how to find a reputable breeder.[/QUOTE]


On the available puppy from breeders rule, I agree wholeheartedly with Crystal and Pat! I think our members do a great job of including virtually every AMA breeder in posting puppy availability, so long as they have a website that we can link to. In fact, I think new available puppies from the most "talked about" breeders (like Bonnie Palmer and Chrisman) are probably posted less than other breeders. (In Bonnie's case, I think it's probably because available pups are not on her website and she only usually sends pictures privately, not to share online.)

Also, speaking for myself, I am definitely up and over my limit on puppies , so looking at the available puppies from breeders section is almost like a second picture forum for me. I can't get another, but I can fantasize about unlimited number of gorgeous puppies, can't I?!
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Old 06-02-2010, 06:52 PM   #17 (permalink)
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So people come here because they want help in finding a maltese puppy and no one is allowed to give them any direction except to point them to the AMA website with our hands over our eyes and mouthes. Then let's all jump all over them if they make a mistake.

never mind.

You don't have to worry about me, I won't break the rules....but I guess I should go read them, I may already be breaking one....
Pat the new rule isn't that we can't point them in the right direction. I read it as no threads of "XYZ Breeder has Puppies Available". I personally do not like those threads to begin with. I don't agree with everyone who is or is not a reputable breeder. In my opinion the fact that who is or is not reputable is very debatable is the reason they decided to put this rule into place. Some breeders it is obvious they are brokers or puppy mills, but others hide it very well. I think the new rule just prevents those questionable (and the reputable) breeders from getting free advertising. Which is, in a way, a form of animal sales - something that is against the rules and everyone agrees on.

I still think that if someone posts asking where they can find a Maltese in certain state we can point them to the breeders we know of in the area. If I'm incorrect in this assumption please let me know Yung. Then the poster can look/google for themselves, research and decide which of the breeders they like. It makes the new person more responsible for their own search.
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Did you see this thread, Crystal? Many of our members have previously requested a warning be posted about graphic/upsetting content in posts.

http://spoiledmaltese.com/forum/72-s...e-request.html

The other dog forums I belong to have such a rule.
I think we should definitely be able to post about breeders and even our experience with them, what the heck is it all about if we can't
Marj, I agree about the warning, I don't want to open a thread and see pictures that will cause me to not sleep for a week, so a warning would be appreciated. I don't think that is to much to ask..
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Thank you for the link to the rules Yung.....I read hrough them and I found it to be helpful to have them linked at the top of each forum. VERY easy to find now!!!!

As for the new rule regarding breeders, there was an intensive discussion that all members were invited to participate in via a public thread. I am certain that Yung and the powers that be read through the post and weighed each opinion and position. Then, like any government, board of directors, supervisor, president, etc., they made a decision that they felt would be most beneficial to the community while protecting the integrity of this site.

I do not envy Yung or his people, I am sure this decision was not made lightly nor easily.

As I read the rule, you cannot post that specific puppies are avaliable but can
(1) post your first hand experience concerning a breeder in response to an inquiry
(2) give newbies or others looking for breeders in their area links to the breeder's home page OR simply the name of the breeder.
(3) post about your experience with a breeder

As I read the rule it simply prohibits the posting of puppies for sale.
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Thank you for the link to the rules Yung.....I read hrough them and I found it to be helpful to have them linked at the top of each forum. VERY easy to find now!!!!

As for the new rule regarding breeders, there was an intensive discussion that all members were invited to participate in via a public thread. I am certain that Yung and the powers that be read through the post and weighed each opinion and position. Then, like any government, board of directors, supervisor, president, etc., they made a decision that they felt would be most beneficial to the community while protecting the integrity of this site.

I do not envy Yung or his people, I am sure this decision was not made lightly nor easily.

As I read the rule, you cannot post that specific puppies are avaliable but can
(1) post your first hand experience concerning a breeder in response to an inquiry
(2) give newbies or others looking for breeders in their area links to the breeder's home page OR simply the name of the breeder.
(3) post about your experience with a breeder

As I read the rule it simply prohibits the posting of puppies for sale.
Thank you for clarifying that for me. I did not really post in the discussion not sure why, just didn't. But I do believe it is helpful for anyone including me to be able to read about firsthand experience.
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