A really interesting and informative discussion on tear stains.

[Sylie]

I used Angel Eyes for one bottle and it really helped with MiMi's tear stains. I vowed to only use the one bottle. Two months later her face staining is worse than ever, you might notice that I haven't posted pictures of her for a long time. So, now even the hair around her mouth and under her chin is pink. I am at my wits end. I thought about going back to Angel Eyes, but first wanted to do more research. I found this forum discussion which really told me more about yeast staining than I have heard before.
I thought you might be interested.

Tear staining, a Real solution

[maltese manica]

I heard that angel eyes have medication of some sort. And long term use can cause liver problems. My mom was using this for her dogs but stopped, because of what the vet told her. As well I know a couple of stores here that refuse to sell the stuff. My vet was saying probiotics help with tear staining. I dont think Mimi would ever look bad she is sooooo cute

[Sylie]

There is so much conflicting information. Read the article which presents different views and decide for yourself. I used to be totally against it, but have mixed feelings now. Well, I just bought some. I have done everything else...everything else.

[Furbabies mom]

Sylvia, you know how bad Laurel's tear stain were. She has none now. I did the .angel eyes, before we saw the opthamologist at OSU. He gave the OK to use it. He also irrigated her tear ducts, which I believe now has helped keep the tear stains away.I still have a bottle of it, and if I need it, I'll use it .

[Ladysmom]

Have you seen this article from Marvista Vets? I think the discussion you posted may be based upon this article.

Tylosin

I have been fortunate that Lady and now Bailey don't have a real issue with tear staining. I use purified or distilled water, faithfully remove "eye boogers" with a mustache comb every day and wipe the area with Spa Lavish on a warm washcloth daily. Environmental irritants seem to affect tearing with them more than anything else. I have air purifiers in every room which really seem to help.

[Sylie]

Originally Posted by Furbabies mom

Sylvia, you know how bad Laurel's tear stain were. She has none now. I did the .angel eyes, before we saw the opthamologist at OSU. He gave the OK to use it. He also irrigated her tear ducts, which I believe now has helped keep the tear stains away.I still have a bottle of it, and if I need it, I'll use it .

It was because of your good results that I first gave it a try. It worked. If it were only tear stains, I would not be as upset, but the stains on her beard totally indicate a yeast over growth. Yeast overgrowth is a tough battle. I personally believe that like so many baby faced dogs, MiMi has small tear ducts. But the red yeast stains on her beard are something else.

[Sylie]

Originally Posted by Ladysmom

Have you seen this article from Marvista Vets? I think the discussion you posted may be based upon this article.

Tylosin

I have been fortunate that Lady and now Bailey don't have a real issue with tear staining. I use purified or distilled water, faithfully remove "eye boogers" with a mustache comb every day and wipe the area with Spa Lavish on a warm washcloth daily. Environmental irritants seem to affect tearing with them more than anything else. I have air purifiers in every room which really seem to help.

Your post makes me consider that ...oh sigh...the environmental irritants may likely be my birds. I have Australian birds who leave a lot of dander. I fear that Rays sneezing and runny nose are due to the bird dander. Maybe that also contributes to MiMi's problems with tearing. Sigh. What can I do? It is a terrible thing to say, but I wish I had never ....nope can't put that into words.

[Furbabies mom]

I had to look at Laurel's pics to remember how bad they were!

Before and After pics

I hope that you find an answer, Laurel's tear stains drive me crazy, and I did do everything I could before the Angel Eyes and going to OSU.

[Ladysmom]

Originally Posted by Sylie

It was because of your good results that I first gave it a try. It worked. If it were only tear stains, I would not be as upset, but the stains on her beard totally indicate a yeast over growth. Yeast overgrowth is a tough battle. I personally believe that like so many baby faced dogs, MiMi has small tear ducts. But the red yeast stains on her beard are something else.

Originally Posted by Sylie

Your post makes me consider that ...oh sigh...the environmental irritants may likely be my birds. I have Australian birds who leave a lot of dander. I fear that Rays sneezing and runny nose are due to the bird dander. Maybe that also contributes to MiMi's problems with tearing. Sigh. What can I do? It is a terrible thing to say, but I wish I had never ....nope can't put that into words.

Have you tried probiotics? They really help with yeast and bacterial overgrowth. I would try that before an antibiotic like Tylosin which will not only kill "bad" bacteria but the "good" also.

I really recommend Animal Essentials or First Choice Naturals.

Animal Essentials - Premium quality supplements for dogs and cats

http://www.firstchoicenaturals.com/I...room.php?gid=4

I really think allergies may be a lot of Mimi's problem. I have allergies myself and swear by air purifiers and eliminating as many allergens in the home as possible. Simple things like switching to a perfume and dye free laundry detergent can make a huge difference. A dehumidifier can drastically reduce dust mite and mold spores in the air along with using Filtrete furnace filters. Not only has this helped my allergies, I am sure that is why Lady and now Bailey don't have a problem with tear staining.

[Sylie]

Originally Posted by Ladysmom

Have you tried probiotics? They really help with yeast and bacterial overgrowth. I would try that before an antibiotic like Tylosin which will not only kill "bad" bacteria but the "good" also.

I really recommend Animal Essentials or First Choice Naturals.

Animal Essentials - Premium quality supplements for dogs and cats

http://www.firstchoicenaturals.com/I...room.php?gid=4

I really think allergies may be a lot of Mimi's problem. I have allergies myself and swear by air purifiers and eliminating as many allergens in the home as possible. Simple things like switching to a perfume and dye free laundry detergent can make a huge difference. A dehumidifier can drastically reduce dust mite and mold spores in the air along with using Filtrete furnace filters. Not only has this helped my allergies, I am sure that is why Lady and now Bailey don't have a problem with tear staining.

Yes, I do give them all Animal Essential probiotics. I give them purified water, I have a bayou bowl for water. The more we talk about it, the more I fear that they are suffering allergens from the birds. I am crazy to avoid any perfumes or chemicals, because I am hyper sensitive. I guess I need to get an air purifier, because the birds do produce a lot of dust. So, I will choose the Filtrete filters. Can you advise me on an air purifier? Sigh. I would really like to rehome my birds, but I don't see it as possible for each one of them. I guess I had better find a way to cope. Fast.