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**summer** · 12-06-2012, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kathleen

I never hear of boarding school for dogs, so I googled.

It looks like the trainer's philosphy is not to reward good behavior, but to use prong collars that pinch the neck as a "correction." I didn't know any trainers did that anymore.

Maltese are such little delicate tiny dogs. They respond so well to love and praise and positive training.

I am worried for Emme. I hope she will be okay.

I am very worried about her too. It doesn't seem fair for her to be put in that situation.

**Summergirl73** · 12-06-2012, 01:55 PM

I can't believe that I missed that in the picture. My God, they are so small. Using choke collars should be illegal on them

. Please reconsider the use of such a restraint. They shouldn't even have collars they should be harnessed for safety reasons. You stated that you've done a lot of research, I hope you will now research the dangers of this type of collar. I pray that this is not considered acceptable at the boarding facility.

**LJSquishy** · 12-06-2012, 02:00 PM

I am shocked that you would send your dog away somewhere that uses prong collars and shock collars. Maltese have more sensitive tracheas than many other breeds which is why it is recommended to use a harness rather than a collar. They can easily cause a collapsed trachea.

I thought the training program was a great idea until I read that he does not use positive reinforcement methods. I am very worried for your puppy. The training works because they are afraid of the pain and that is no way to treat a pet. That is like using physical punishment for a child as a threat -- it causes fear.

I feel sorry for both of your dogs if you truly find this as an acceptable way to train your pets (not just Maltese but any pet).

**Grace'sMom** · 12-06-2012, 02:33 PM

Wow! I just noticed the little choke collar on that puppy!

Your trainer knows nothing!

Maltese are prone to Collapsed Trachea!

Sheesh..... Seriously??? Who needs a choke collar for a tiny Maltese PUPPY? Even an adult Maltese....

Sorry. That is not safe. And you may not see the damage of that collar until they are older.

Sigh.

**hoaloha** · 12-06-2012, 04:19 PM

Oh my goodness- I didn't even catch that collar in the pic since the pic is small on my phone

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. PLEASE DO NOT USE A NECK COLLAR OF ANY TYPE FOR ANY LEASH CORRECTIONS or even walking in toy breeds like Maltese as they can cause tracheal collapse!!!!

Prong collars may have a role (still controversial) in LARGE breeds like German shepherd dogs, etc... But NeVER In a toy breed!

A Havanese is very different than a Maltese puppy in terms of size. I am a bit worried for your puppy being so small and young after looking at that trainers site. I am sorry, I just don't support his methods and it puts your dog's health at risk.

**Furbabies mom** · 12-06-2012, 04:35 PM

dog trainers
Here is an article about him, at least I think this is the trainer. Forgive me if it's not,

**eiksaa** · 12-06-2012, 05:11 PM

Oh poor baby, please don't let the trainer use force on that little thing. It seems so wrong and unnecessary. It is totally possible to have a well behaved dog from just positive training methods.

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**mysugarbears** · 12-06-2012, 05:13 PM

I see in the picture that Emme has a chain collar on, like others have said on here you don't walk a little maltese with any type of collar because it could collapse their trachea. I just went and looked at the site and listened to a couple of videos and there is no way in H*LL i would let that wacko train my pet rabbit if i had one let alone my dog or send them off for 5 weeks for training. I just took my girl Kelly to training class and the trainer uses positive reinforcement treats and praise, she trains agility classes and her dogs do go off leash and have excellent recall and she's also a pet behaviorist. This person seems like he trains like Cesar Milan and they both seem to set the dog up for failure instead of setting them up for good behavior.

I truly feel sorry for Emme.

**ladodd** · 12-06-2012, 05:37 PM

I don't understand why anyone would send a tiny maltese off for 5 wks of training. His website says his training addresses tough behavioral issues, I've never heard of or met a maltese with tough behavioral issues. I feel so sorry for this little angel. I'm guessing we will never hear the outcome.

**pippersmom** · 12-06-2012, 05:51 PM

We don't send young children away for 5 weeks of forceful training so they will be the perfect obedient child.

12-06-2012, 01:55 PM	#22 (permalink)
Summergirl73 Maltese Guru Name: Bridget Dog's Name: Lady Bella (and Katie & Lucky at The Bridge) Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,742	I can't believe that I missed that in the picture. My God, they are so small. Using choke collars should be illegal on them . Please reconsider the use of such a restraint. They shouldn't even have collars they should be harnessed for safety reasons. You stated that you've done a lot of research, I hope you will now research the dangers of this type of collar. I pray that this is not considered acceptable at the boarding facility. __________________ "A weed is just a plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered." Last edited by Summergirl73; 12-06-2012 at 01:59 PM.

12-06-2012, 02:00 PM	#23 (permalink)
LJSquishy Maltese Guru Name: Lisa Dog's Name: London (12/20/07) & Preston (03/25/09) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 5,879	I am shocked that you would send your dog away somewhere that uses prong collars and shock collars. Maltese have more sensitive tracheas than many other breeds which is why it is recommended to use a harness rather than a collar. They can easily cause a collapsed trachea. I thought the training program was a great idea until I read that he does not use positive reinforcement methods. I am very worried for your puppy. The training works because they are afraid of the pain and that is no way to treat a pet. That is like using physical punishment for a child as a threat -- it causes fear. I feel sorry for both of your dogs if you truly find this as an acceptable way to train your pets (not just Maltese but any pet). __________________

12-06-2012, 02:33 PM	#24 (permalink)
Grace'sMom Maltese Guru Name: Tori Dog's Name: Grace -maltipoo, Gus - poodle mix Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: USA Posts: 2,931	Wow! I just noticed the little choke collar on that puppy! Your trainer knows nothing! Maltese are prone to Collapsed Trachea! Sheesh..... Seriously??? Who needs a choke collar for a tiny Maltese PUPPY? Even an adult Maltese.... Sorry. That is not safe. And you may not see the damage of that collar until they are older. Sigh. __________________ Grace (Dec. 4, 2011) & Gus (Dec.15, 2009) my lyme journey blog: purplelymegirl my lyme video (updated link): Tick,tick,tick... Time to see Lyme

12-06-2012, 04:19 PM	#25 (permalink)
hoaloha Maltese Guru Name: Marisa Dog's Name: Obi (Bellarata's You Better Believe It) & Owen (Aria Maltese) Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Southern California Posts: 3,371	Oh my goodness- I didn't even catch that collar in the pic since the pic is small on my phone . . PLEASE DO NOT USE A NECK COLLAR OF ANY TYPE FOR ANY LEASH CORRECTIONS or even walking in toy breeds like Maltese as they can cause tracheal collapse!!!! Prong collars may have a role (still controversial) in LARGE breeds like German shepherd dogs, etc... But NeVER In a toy breed! A Havanese is very different than a Maltese puppy in terms of size. I am a bit worried for your puppy being so small and young after looking at that trainers site. I am sorry, I just don't support his methods and it puts your dog's health at risk. __________________ Click here to be Obi's facebook buddy! Click here to watch all of Obi's FUN maltese tricks and videos!

12-06-2012, 04:35 PM	#26 (permalink)
Furbabies mom Maltese Guru Name: Deborah Dog's Name: Laurel (maltese), Dewey, Violet and Hardy and Dewey Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 8,499	dog trainers Here is an article about him, at least I think this is the trainer. Forgive me if it's not, __________________ Deborah and my Fluffs, Laurel, Violet , Hardy and Dewey!

12-06-2012, 05:11 PM	#27 (permalink)
eiksaa Maltese Guru Name: Aastha Dog's Name: Gustave Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,255	Oh poor baby, please don't let the trainer use force on that little thing. It seems so wrong and unnecessary. It is totally possible to have a well behaved dog from just positive training methods. Sent from my iPhone using Petguide.com Free App __________________

12-06-2012, 05:13 PM	#28 (permalink)
mysugarbears Maltese Guru Name: Debbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fluffville USA Posts: 8,009	I see in the picture that Emme has a chain collar on, like others have said on here you don't walk a little maltese with any type of collar because it could collapse their trachea. I just went and looked at the site and listened to a couple of videos and there is no way in H*LL i would let that wacko train my pet rabbit if i had one let alone my dog or send them off for 5 weeks for training. I just took my girl Kelly to training class and the trainer uses positive reinforcement treats and praise, she trains agility classes and her dogs do go off leash and have excellent recall and she's also a pet behaviorist. This person seems like he trains like Cesar Milan and they both seem to set the dog up for failure instead of setting them up for good behavior. I truly feel sorry for Emme. __________________

12-06-2012, 05:37 PM	#29 (permalink)
ladodd Maltese Guru Name: Laurie Dog's Name: Lily Mae, Addie (Ilovitt), Jackson (Ilovitt), Luci Mae at the bridge Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Atlanta,Ga Posts: 807	I don't understand why anyone would send a tiny maltese off for 5 wks of training. His website says his training addresses tough behavioral issues, I've never heard of or met a maltese with tough behavioral issues. I feel so sorry for this little angel. I'm guessing we will never hear the outcome.

12-06-2012, 05:51 PM	#30 (permalink)
pippersmom Maltese Guru Name: Kathy Dog's Name: Pipper Join Date: May 2012 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,373	We don't send young children away for 5 weeks of forceful training so they will be the perfect obedient child. __________________ He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.

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