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Old 06-14-2017, 02:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I met with an obedience trainer a few weeks ago to discuss training options for Aviannah (she will be 5 months old later this month and she has learned/learning sit, stay, lay, shake and heel so far just at home with us). The trainer told me I could do private or group lessons but group is sometimes a better option for better social skills. We had a vet appointment the following week and the vet told me she felt group might be a bad idea for us since Avi is small and could be easily hurt if a larger dog got excited and away from its owner. So with that said I would appreciate any advice and or opinions so I can make a semi-educated decision on what would be best for us. I would appreciate any I can get!
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I can see both sides. Group would help socialize her, but if larger dogs are present she could be harmed by him. My friend took her dog to Petsmart and was jumped by a bigger dog. Luckily no harm came of this. It would depend on the trainer and her qualifications. Also I would worry about dog flu right now depending on where you live.
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I've only had training with Lacie and she did so much better with private than in a group. One because she was the tiniest dog in the group lesson and I was so nervous about the other dogs jumping on her and two...she focused much better when alone vs. than in a group. For socializing, I ended up bringing her to puppy play groups with dogs her size.
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I can see both sides. Group would help socialize her, but if larger dogs are present she could be harmed by him. My friend took her dog to Petsmart and was jumped by a bigger dog. Luckily no harm came of this. It would depend on the trainer and her qualifications. Also I would worry about dog flu right now depending on where you live.

Sherry I completely forgot about that flu, I am in Kansas and I am not sure if any cases have been confirmed here. Probably not worth that risk on top of possible injury. I have been trying to socialize her with my friends pups that are small. Not having the best of luck yet though , she loves all of them but they seem annoyed by her playful little self. They have all been a bit older pups except one that was one. I will keep taking her and trying! She is exposed daily (Mon.-Fri.) to new people and steals their hearts easily so far.
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I've only had training with Lacie and she did so much better with private than in a group. One because she was the tiniest dog in the group lesson and I was so nervous about the other dogs jumping on her and two...she focused much better when alone vs. than in a group. For socializing, I ended up bringing her to puppy play groups with dogs her size.

Joanne I think I would be nervous too. I work hard to find balance for her. It bothers me just leaving her home in the safety of her playpen. But since I do not want her to get bad separation anxiety I make sure I leave her a couple times a week even if only for a short while. I also leave her sometimes with family outside of my home so she learns to feel safe in other places. Not sure if that is right or wrong but it felt right. I have so much to learn still. I need to see if maybe I could find or even start a puppy play group for the small size pups.
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Joanne I think I would be nervous too. I work hard to find balance for her. It bothers me just leaving her home in the safety of her playpen. But since I do not want her to get bad separation anxiety I make sure I leave her a couple times a week even if only for a short while. I also leave her sometimes with family outside of my home so she learns to feel safe in other places. Not sure if that is right or wrong but it felt right. I have so much to learn still. I need to see if maybe I could find or even start a puppy play group for the small size pups.
Denise...I think it's great that your leaving her to avoid separation anxiety. That was one of the reason that I started training with Lacie. Lacie would try digging herself out of the crate to the point she would bleed. The trainer had me leave for a minute and then return, adding a few min each day. That way she would trust and build confidence in herself that I would be back.
I see that you mentioned something to the effect that Aviannah being annoying to the other dogs. That was my Lacie...she didn't know how to give space or take a hint when other dogs didn't want her to jump, play with them. This is part of socialism them. Hopefully, Aviannah will learn with a growl, being ignored or even a snap from another dog to stop. Unfortunately, my girl never picked up on these cues and to this day, still annoys other dogs which can lead to a fight.
It's a lot to learn but you are doing a great job already. She will be an an
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Denise...I think it's great that your leaving her to avoid separation anxiety. That was one of the reason that I started training with Lacie. Lacie would try digging herself out of the crate to the point she would bleed. The trainer had me leave for a minute and then return, adding a few min each day. That way she would trust and build confidence in herself that I would be back.
I see that you mentioned something to the effect that Aviannah being annoying to the other dogs. That was my Lacie...she didn't know how to give space or take a hint when other dogs didn't want her to jump, play with them. This is part of socialism them. Hopefully, Aviannah will learn with a growl, being ignored or even a snap from another dog to stop. Unfortunately, my girl never picked up on these cues and to this day, still annoys other dogs which can lead to a fight.
It's a lot to learn but you are doing a great job already. She will be an an
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Thank you so much Joanne, your words boosted my confidence! Going from giant size breeds to the toy size breed has been a world of change and learning for me. So far I have only introduced her to other toy breeds. Have you ever introduced Lacie to a larger size dog? I have family members with medium size to large size that I have been too afraid to let her meet yet outside of her carrier. I have taken her around them more than once and let them sniff each through carrier.
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Thank you so much Joanne, your words boosted my confidence! Going from giant size breeds to the toy size breed has been a world of change and learning for me. So far I have only introduced her to other toy breeds. Have you ever introduced Lacie to a larger size dog? I have family members with medium size to large size that I have been too afraid to let her meet yet outside of her carrier. I have taken her around them more than once and let them sniff each through carrier.
To be honest...I don't let my girls go near larger breeds. Lacie has more substance to her, so a little less of a worry for me but my other two are under 5 lbs, so, no way. Besides the fact, bigger dogs scare me to death. I'm petrified of them, don't trust if they were ever trained considering I was bit several times by a German Shepard when I was little.
Anything under 20 lbs is ok under supervision and pushing it but that's me and I'm super paranoid and overprotective!
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To be honest...I don't let my girls go near larger breeds. Lacie has more substance to her, so a little less of a worry for me but my other two are under 5 lbs, so, no way. Besides the fact, bigger dogs scare me to death. I'm petrified of them, don't trust if they were ever trained considering I was bit several times by a German Shepard when I was little.
Anything under 20 lbs is ok under supervision and pushing it but that's me and I'm super paranoid and overprotective!

Ugh, I am so sorry you got bit like that! I am used to giant breeds, obviously since I had them, but I am still very cautious with all animals. Avi is 3 lbs right now and I have been very protective of her so all things considered I can understand your reasoning easily. None of the family owned dogs are aggressive however I know an accident could happen merely from their size verses hers during excited play. I am trying to expose her to as much as possible while she is young so maybe I will only let her (with me holding her) around one old girl that is very laid back and good around and with small animals and little kids.
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When Lucky went to obedience class, he was in a class of all small dogs; mostly yorkies. I don't think I would do a class with larger dogs.
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