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Old 08-28-2015, 10:17 AM   #11 (permalink)
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JO JO I am so proud of you for writing this!!!! Great job!!!

I agree with Pam, Maggie and everyone that I too was worried that SM no longer was really taking an interest in BYB and somehow do not pay attention to what happened to McCartney, Lacie, and many other maltese dogs that have bad breeding behind them. Although, the breeder I got McC from- criteria did not fall exactly into all those categories, I can never recommend them again because they continue to breed McC mom dad and sister. Their belief is she did not have GME/NME .... so irritating-- that it makes me shake.

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Old 09-03-2015, 09:05 PM   #12 (permalink)
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JO JO I am so proud of you for writing this!!!! Great job!!!

I agree with Pam, Maggie and everyone that I too was worried that SM no longer was really taking an interest in BYB and somehow do not pay attention to what happened to McCartney, Lacie, and many other maltese dogs that have bad breeding behind them. Although, the breeder I got McC from- criteria did not fall exactly into all those categories, I can never recommend them again because they continue to breed McC mom dad and sister. Their belief is she did not have GME/NME .... so irritating-- that it makes me shake.

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Carol, what happened to McC is still very heartbreaking to me. To watch her suffer because of careless BYB and greed is so upsetting to me.
Watching everything you went through, watching her suffer and living with Lacie's day to day sufferings is what inspired me to write this.
Hopefully those who read it will be much more aware and will walk away from those who are BYB.
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Old 09-03-2015, 09:38 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Old 09-07-2015, 07:46 PM   #14 (permalink)
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This is a good start. But BYB's are actually pretty easy to spot. The tough ones are the ones that are disguised as "reputable" or "show" breeders....but they aren't. Some unfortunately disguise themselves as show breeders by obtaining "show dogs" from less than reputable breeders and then proceed to breed them and call themselves "show breeders." When someone purchases a dogs from a reputable breeder (probably signing a neuter and spay agreement)and then turns around and breeds them- and sells them is worse than a back yard breeder. It's hard to tell at first pass who the imposters are. But if you really do your homework, you can weed them out.

I'm actually happy to see this posted here. I was beginning to feel like SM was becoming a site that was OK with the BYB's.
I agree that some BYB are easy to spot, however to the real newcomer who doesn't really understand about BYB and the sale tactics they use to make that sale~these warnings are not so obvious or simple to see through. BYB IMHO are very very good at manipulating to make a sale. The most important thing to do is to ask questions and if it doesn't feel right and they avoid even the simplest question...walk or shall I say run fast!
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Wow. Do BYB do CKC registered as well ? My breeder she said she will guarantee pups health for an year. Now I am skeptical If she was true breeder or BYB.
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Wow. Do BYB do CKC registered as well ? My breeder she said she will guarantee pups health for an year. Now I am skeptical If she was true breeder or BYB.
Unless CKC means Canadian Kennel Club, yes, CKC means BYB or puppy mill. It's a pet registry created for people who can't meet the pure breed requirements.

Keep in mind, though, that BYB also use AKC registration if they have pure bred dogs.
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Old 03-24-2016, 08:50 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Unless CKC means Canadian Kennel Club, yes, CKC means BYB or puppy mill. It's a pet registry created for people who can't meet the pure breed requirements.

Keep in mind, though, that BYB also use AKC registration if they have pure bred dogs.
This is very true. I know that when I saved Lacie from that horrible BYB who claimed to be a top show breeder in Beverly, Mass, she was CKC registered, so she says. Now she tells her potential buyers, she is AKC. I wish I knew then what I know now.

BYB also stalk SM and manipulate what is said here. They use places like their Facebook page to look like the hero and tell their potential buyers that SM isn't fact based. When in actuality, they are breeding for profit, that almighty dollar.
I can not say it enough, BYB DO NOT HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE ON HOW TO BREED RESPONSIBLY.
All anyone has to do is read my Lacie's story. It will certainly make you reconsider buying from a BYB, CKC, even an BYB who tells you they are AKC.
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Seems like allot of new Maltese pups lately on SM have been coming from BYBs. I cringe every time I read a new post with a puppy posted that's obviously way to young. I just keep thinking that keeps paying them to keep breeding on. Maltese are a very delicate breed. Please if you are on SM with us commit with us to better the breed. Most of us are here because we all have a story to tell and love our Maltese just as human kids.
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Seems like allot of new Maltese pups lately on SM have been coming from BYBs. I cringe every time I read a new post with a puppy posted that's obviously way to young. I just keep thinking that keeps paying them to keep breeding on. Maltese are a very delicate breed. Please if you are on SM with us commit with us to better the breed. Most of us are here because we all have a story to tell and love our Maltese just as human kids.
I've noticed the same, Stacey. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and think they adopted from a BYB BEFORE they found SM, however, I don't think that's the case.

Someone on FB sent me this yesterday. This is my Lacie's breeders, Royal House of Maltese's FB page, for those who don't know, sold me a very, very sick dog wth genetic problems. I REALLY, REALLY hope that the person who asked the question on SM made the right choice in the end and adopted from a reputable breeder, not a BYB.
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Seems like allot of new Maltese pups lately on SM have been coming from BYBs. I cringe every time I read a new post with a puppy posted that's obviously way to young. I just keep thinking that keeps paying them to keep breeding on. Maltese are a very delicate breed. Please if you are on SM with us commit with us to better the breed. Most of us are here because we all have a story to tell and love our Maltese just as human kids.
Totally agree with you. It's disappointing to see so many from BYB and it's even more disappointing that many here seem to think it's ok. Keeping the breed strong and improving it means supporting breeders who prove their lines by showing and who consider genetics when breeding their show dogs. They don't breed dogs who aren't exceptional examples of the breed.
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