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**pippersmom** · 01-07-2013, 01:26 PM

One more thing came to mind.....it kind of makes you wonder how he "TRAINS" his own children. Also, I sure would NOT being leaving my baby on the floor with all those dogs around.

**Tonya123** · 01-07-2013, 01:34 PM

This is sooo upsetting to me. How can this be allowed in this country. We have so many laws, but not enought to protect children and animals. People like him make me worry about our country.

**eiksaa** · 01-07-2013, 01:34 PM

Exactly, what's the point? Why would you get a dog if all you want from them is to obey their place command for 4 hours? What's the point?!

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**WeeGrace** · 01-07-2013, 01:54 PM

Eiksaa there is no point in having a dog of its going to sight for lengthy hours on end!!! It's awful everytime I see something happen to that little fluff I give daiy extra cuddles. I don't think that poor fluff is going to get any cuddles by the sounds of it.

**summer** · 01-07-2013, 02:01 PM

Is it not considered animal abuse to Force a dog to lie and stay on the cold snow? If the dog is wearing a shock collar, than he has a choice of being shocked or laying like that on the snow. What kind of choice is that. I think it would not only be uncomfortable to lie on the snow but it would hurt too.

When its cold and I walk on my patio without shoes my feet really hurt.

**Snowbody** · 01-07-2013, 02:35 PM

Hard for me to get on SM much because of my injury and very uncomfotable to sit at my computer but I just saw this and was incensed. Poor baby! And the owner is just stupid leaving her there...she heard all the warnings but didn't care.
Is there are way to get the aspca involved in this in RI by aiming them to the website and pointing some of this out. And what about the local tv stations in Providence for an investigative piece? You might want to try. I wish this guy would get run out of town on a rail.

**Fluffdoll** · 01-07-2013, 03:06 PM

That is SICK! Please report it!!! I can't even hold an ice cube for too long without it burning my skin. Just imagine that poor baby's sensitive skin being forced to stay on the ice cold snow!!!! That is just so messed up

**maltese manica** · 01-07-2013, 03:27 PM

I am feeling helpless on this situation
I mean look I am not the only one who was blocked from the mad mans face book page
This is really disgusting and truly sad

**kaeco510** · 01-07-2013, 03:37 PM

I can't stop thinking about this :-( I'm so disturbed.... I wish I could go to RI and rescue this baby

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**LJSquishy** · 01-07-2013, 03:48 PM

I guess I will be the only person to say that this is not necessarily animal abuse. A Maltese is capable of laying down in the snow for a moment without injury.

I absolutely do not agree with the methods this guy uses to train dogs, but putting a dog (even a Maltese) in a down-stay in the snow isn't going to hurt them. Now, if he were asking for a several minute long down-stay, I would be concerned about that. I would also be concerned if the dog were out in the snow for a prolonged period of time even walking around because of the paw pads (and cold temps).

01-07-2013, 01:26 PM	#31 (permalink)
pippersmom Maltese Guru Name: Kathy Dog's Name: Pipper Join Date: May 2012 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,393	One more thing came to mind.....it kind of makes you wonder how he "TRAINS" his own children. Also, I sure would NOT being leaving my baby on the floor with all those dogs around. __________________ He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion.

01-07-2013, 01:34 PM	#33 (permalink)
eiksaa Maltese Guru Name: Aastha Dog's Name: Gustave Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,287	Exactly, what's the point? Why would you get a dog if all you want from them is to obey their place command for 4 hours? What's the point?! Sent from my iPhone using Petguide.com Free App __________________

01-07-2013, 02:35 PM	#36 (permalink)
Snowbody Maltese Guru Name: Susan Dog's Name: Tyler Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 18,338	Hard for me to get on SM much because of my injury and very uncomfotable to sit at my computer but I just saw this and was incensed. Poor baby! And the owner is just stupid leaving her there...she heard all the warnings but didn't care. Is there are way to get the aspca involved in this in RI by aiming them to the website and pointing some of this out. And what about the local tv stations in Providence for an investigative piece? You might want to try. I wish this guy would get run out of town on a rail. __________________

01-07-2013, 03:06 PM	#37 (permalink)
Fluffdoll Maltese Guru Name: Marisol Dog's Name: Kelly (Maltese) Dolce (Toy Poodle) Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Panama, Central America. Posts: 474	That is SICK! Please report it!!! I can't even hold an ice cube for too long without it burning my skin. Just imagine that poor baby's sensitive skin being forced to stay on the ice cold snow!!!! That is just so messed up __________________

01-07-2013, 03:48 PM	#40 (permalink)
LJSquishy Maltese Guru Name: Lisa Dog's Name: London (12/20/07) & Preston (03/25/09) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 5,879	I guess I will be the only person to say that this is not necessarily animal abuse. A Maltese is capable of laying down in the snow for a moment without injury. I absolutely do not agree with the methods this guy uses to train dogs, but putting a dog (even a Maltese) in a down-stay in the snow isn't going to hurt them. Now, if he were asking for a several minute long down-stay, I would be concerned about that. I would also be concerned if the dog were out in the snow for a prolonged period of time even walking around because of the paw pads (and cold temps). __________________

01-07-2013, 01:34 PM	#32 (permalink)
Tonya123 Newbie Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 39	This is sooo upsetting to me. How can this be allowed in this country. We have so many laws, but not enought to protect children and animals. People like him make me worry about our country.

01-07-2013, 01:54 PM	#34 (permalink)
WeeGrace Maltese Guru Name: Grace Dog's Name: Daisy Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Ireland Posts: 555	Eiksaa there is no point in having a dog of its going to sight for lengthy hours on end!!! It's awful everytime I see something happen to that little fluff I give daiy extra cuddles. I don't think that poor fluff is going to get any cuddles by the sounds of it.

01-07-2013, 02:01 PM	#35 (permalink)
summer Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 69	Is it not considered animal abuse to Force a dog to lie and stay on the cold snow? If the dog is wearing a shock collar, than he has a choice of being shocked or laying like that on the snow. What kind of choice is that. I think it would not only be uncomfortable to lie on the snow but it would hurt too. When its cold and I walk on my patio without shoes my feet really hurt.

01-07-2013, 03:27 PM	#38 (permalink)
maltese manica Maltese Guru Name: Janene Dog's Name: Babinka, Tiny Tina and Peppino Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Canada, Ontario Posts: 1,981	I am feeling helpless on this situation I mean look I am not the only one who was blocked from the mad mans face book page This is really disgusting and truly sad

01-07-2013, 03:37 PM	#39 (permalink)
kaeco510 Maltese Guru Name: Kaitlin Dog's Name: Sadie Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Connecticut Posts: 200	I can't stop thinking about this :-( I'm so disturbed.... I wish I could go to RI and rescue this baby Sent from my iPhone using Petguide.com Free App

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