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**eiksaa** · 01-07-2013, 05:55 PM

Do you mind sharing what those things are? One, like you mentioned, is training throughout the day. What other methods do you like?

**AshleyAndSophiePup** · 01-07-2013, 06:00 PM

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This picture upsets me. Emmy looks TERRIFIED. No matter how well trained, that big dog could turn on her in a second and there would be nothing he could have done to stop her in time. The fact is that our small fluffs look like prey to larger dogs, and it brings out the animal instinct in them, you can't train that instinct out of them. Allowing this type of interaction without being closely monitored and both of them leashed would not happen in my book. Especially since he states that it's so Emmy learns her place and that big dogs don't take any nonsense from small puppies. This is him knowingly putting her in a dangerous situation.

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**Summergirl73** · 01-07-2013, 06:19 PM

Sweet Jesus that picture makes me want to throw up. That puppy is terrified!

**poochie2** · 01-07-2013, 06:28 PM

That is animal abuse !! That DOES look like some sort of shock collar on his neck and I enlarged the photo and that malt is terrified and has that blank look of fear. Something has to be done to stop this ! Someone should shove that guy's face in the snow ! I'm furious and sad

**mysugarbears** · 01-07-2013, 06:47 PM

I worry about the poor pup developing an upper respiratory infection or even worse bronchitis or pneumonia. I live in NW FL and we do get some cold nights here high 20's or low 30's and those days we put jackets on the kids to go out to potty.

I'm just so appalled, i even contacted Victoria Stillwell on her FB page and have heard nothing, i'm going to check her website and see if there is another way to contact her.

I know when i took the pups to obedience class and we trained at home as part of our homework the pups loved it, Kelly actually bounced around and was so eager to go in my room for training, they all were when it was their turn. I like to see the joy in the pups faces when they are learning something new and have accomplished it, not the sadness and possibly fear.

I too was blocked from making comments after the 2nd or 3rd day of commenting how wrong it was to use these types of training methods.

**maltese manica** · 01-07-2013, 06:56 PM

Interesting how he blocks us after asking valid questions!
If he is not doing anything wrong then why does he block us ?

**summer** · 01-07-2013, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maltese manica

Interesting how he blocks us after asking valid questions!
If he is not doing anything wrong then why does he block us ?

I was thinking the same thing.

**Furbabies mom** · 01-07-2013, 07:03 PM

I had to back and look at his Facebook. It makes me sad to see that little baby there. All those huge dogs around is frightening! In all his pics you see dogs Everywhere and kids Everywhere!! It looks like a big chaotic mess!

**LoveLucy** · 01-07-2013, 07:11 PM

I don't think it looks like a healthy living situation for the dogs OR the kids. He's gross. And for those wondering if those black boxes are shock collars, there's really no doubt about that. He sells them on his website--all sizes, all colors:
Collars

**poochie2** · 01-07-2013, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Furbabies mom

I had to back and look at his Facebook. It makes me sad to see that little baby there. All those huge dogs around is frightening! In all his pics you see dogs Everywhere and kids Everywhere!! It looks like a big chaotic mess!

I noticed the same thing. Dog beds everywhere, huge big dogs around little babies, lots of kids, lots of stuff...very chaotic looking.

01-07-2013, 05:55 PM	#51 (permalink)
eiksaa Maltese Guru Name: Aastha Dog's Name: Gustave Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,282	Do you mind sharing what those things are? One, like you mentioned, is training throughout the day. What other methods do you like? __________________

01-07-2013, 06:00 PM	#52 (permalink)
AshleyAndSophiePup Maltese Guru Name: Ashley Dog's Name: Sophie Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Western Washington Posts: 934	This picture upsets me. Emmy looks TERRIFIED. No matter how well trained, that big dog could turn on her in a second and there would be nothing he could have done to stop her in time. The fact is that our small fluffs look like prey to larger dogs, and it brings out the animal instinct in them, you can't train that instinct out of them. Allowing this type of interaction without being closely monitored and both of them leashed would not happen in my book. Especially since he states that it's so Emmy learns her place and that big dogs don't take any nonsense from small puppies. This is him knowingly putting her in a dangerous situation. Sent from my iPhone using Petguide.com Free App __________________ Ashley & Sophie

01-07-2013, 06:19 PM	#53 (permalink)
Summergirl73 Maltese Guru Name: Bridget Dog's Name: Lady Bella (and Katie & Lucky at The Bridge) Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Virginia Posts: 3,756	Sweet Jesus that picture makes me want to throw up. That puppy is terrified! __________________ "A weed is just a plant whose virtues have not yet been discovered."

01-07-2013, 06:47 PM	#55 (permalink)
mysugarbears Maltese Guru Name: Debbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Fluffville USA Posts: 8,014	I worry about the poor pup developing an upper respiratory infection or even worse bronchitis or pneumonia. I live in NW FL and we do get some cold nights here high 20's or low 30's and those days we put jackets on the kids to go out to potty. I'm just so appalled, i even contacted Victoria Stillwell on her FB page and have heard nothing, i'm going to check her website and see if there is another way to contact her. I know when i took the pups to obedience class and we trained at home as part of our homework the pups loved it, Kelly actually bounced around and was so eager to go in my room for training, they all were when it was their turn. I like to see the joy in the pups faces when they are learning something new and have accomplished it, not the sadness and possibly fear. I too was blocked from making comments after the 2nd or 3rd day of commenting how wrong it was to use these types of training methods. __________________

01-07-2013, 07:03 PM	#58 (permalink)
Furbabies mom Maltese Guru Name: Deborah Dog's Name: Laurel (maltese), Dewey, Violet and Hardy and Dewey Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 8,567	I had to back and look at his Facebook. It makes me sad to see that little baby there. All those huge dogs around is frightening! In all his pics you see dogs Everywhere and kids Everywhere!! It looks like a big chaotic mess! __________________ Deborah and my Fluffs, Laurel, Violet , Hardy and Dewey!

01-07-2013, 06:28 PM	#54 (permalink)
poochie2 Maltese Guru Dog's Name: Vanilla Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 1,521	That is animal abuse !! That DOES look like some sort of shock collar on his neck and I enlarged the photo and that malt is terrified and has that blank look of fear. Something has to be done to stop this ! Someone should shove that guy's face in the snow ! I'm furious and sad

01-07-2013, 06:56 PM	#56 (permalink)
maltese manica Maltese Guru Name: Janene Dog's Name: Babinka, Tiny Tina and Peppino Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Canada, Ontario Posts: 1,966	Interesting how he blocks us after asking valid questions! If he is not doing anything wrong then why does he block us ?

01-07-2013, 07:11 PM	#59 (permalink)
LoveLucy Maltese Guru Name: Gail Dog's Name: Lucy Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Henderson, NV Posts: 455	I don't think it looks like a healthy living situation for the dogs OR the kids. He's gross. And for those wondering if those black boxes are shock collars, there's really no doubt about that. He sells them on his website--all sizes, all colors: Collars

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