What are the guidelines regarding Rosemary

[Furbaby's Mommie]

I hear it said that rosemary causes seizures in dogs. I've never heard how much is a problem. Is there any kind of guideline? Also every dog food I've read the label on has it. The Karma I feed Shoni has it. I saw in another post about what dry food people are feeding that a lot of you are using Orijen Fish 6. I got a sample bag and Shoni likes, but it lists rosemary too. The organic foods especially use it as a preservative I think.

Shoni has not had a seizure, so is that the only indication that we can go by?

[momtoboo]

I've been pondering on that too. I was trying to find a better quality weight management food & soooooo many of them have Rosemary extract or Rosemary oil. I was all set to buy Innova,but it has Rosemary extract.

[roxybaby22]

Are all forms of Rosemary triggers for seizures in some dogs or is it just Rosemary extract? Because I feed Orijen and it has Rosemary (not extract), but Roxy is doing well (even though it has only been a month).

Also, what dogs are prone to get seizures from Rosemary?

[CeeCee's Mom]

The only thing that I can think of is some dogs are more inclined to have a reaction to the rosemary and have seizures. My dogs have never had a problem but I have read that it can cause seizures in some dogs. I was wondering about little Katie but that is because I wanted it to be something like that, you could eliminate the food and it would not happen again~~most vets are not aware of this........

[roxybaby22]

QUOTE (CeeCee's Mom @ Jun 16 2009, 02:59 PM)

The only thing that I can think of is some dogs are more inclined to have a reaction to the rosemary and have seizures. My dogs have never had a problem but I have read that it can cause seizures in some dogs. I was wondering about little Katie but that is because I wanted it to be something like that, you could eliminate the food and it would not happen again~~most vets are not aware of this........[/B]

Yes, I hope that is the case for baby Katie also. It would be such an easy fix.

[Nikki's Mom]

I think that only some dogs have a reaction to it, just like grapes. I steer clear of grapes for Nikki and don't generally use rosemary in Nikki's food, but I think I've used organic treats that contained rosemary and it didn't bother her.

[Cosy]

Some dogs are more prone to seizures with rosemary and their extracts than others. Just as some dogs
may be allergic to this or that. I don't care to risk it as seizures can cause damage. I saw my daughter's
maltese gradually work up to grand mal seizures while eating a food with rosemary extract. She stopped
the food and the seizures stopped within the week and never returned. No coincidence. I also had a friend
whose dog had a seizure after ingesting one treat containing RE. She tossed the
treats and nothing since. Dwerten's dog reacted to it also, I believe. Too many stories to take lightly
for me.

[dwerten]

it is only in dogs that are prone to seizures - make sure it is low on ingredients and you should be ok -- my demi had a seizure on it as i screwed up and gave her rotisserie rosemary chicken from albertsons so 12 hrs later she seized. However i have fed her newman's own organic for over a year no issue but i have been looking for foods without it and hardly any -- I will see today though as i wanted to try honest kitchen and gave demi a tiny bit today as it smelled pretty strong and used the force so will see how she does as that has rosemary in it too but i want to get a healthier food as newman's own has a lot of grains and she does not seem to like it - i add organic chicken and then she just eats the chicken mostly - she is a real picky eater too and it takes forever to feed her

So that being said i would only worry if your dog has a seizure or starts acting off otherwise most foods have it so you are kind of stuck unless you home cook as it is used as a preservative in most foods that are higher quality

[dwerten]

ok now i feel bad about keeping newman's own but rosemary is last on the list -- this is a very good point and why i keep searching for foods without it

cosy do you have a list of foods you are feeding that do not have it ? as it does scare me still


QUOTE (Cosy @ Jun 16 2009, 08:18 PM)

Some dogs are more prone to seizures with rosemary and their extracts than others. Just as some dogs
may be allergic to this or that. I don't care to risk it as seizures can cause damage. I saw my daughter's
maltese gradually work up to grand mal seizures while eating a food with rosemary extract. She stopped
the food and the seizures stopped within the week and never returned. No coincidence. I also had a friend
whose dog had a seizure after ingesting one treat containing RE. She tossed the
treats and nothing since. Dwerten's dog reacted to it also, I believe. Too many stories to take lightly
for me.[/B]

[dwerten]

it is one of those things you will not know until it happens sadly but i think demi reacted as rotisserie chicken is really potent and man it stunk when I had the chicken and i knew better as had read that but demi never had any health issues until it happened and i was in shock trying to figure out what caused her to seize - it was a petit mal where she just froze -- it scared me


QUOTE (roxybaby22 @ Jun 16 2009, 12:50 PM)

Are all forms of Rosemary triggers for seizures in some dogs or is it just Rosemary extract? Because I feed Orijen and it has Rosemary (not extract), but Roxy is doing well (even though it has only been a month).

Also, what dogs are prone to get seizures from Rosemary?[/B]