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Old 10-04-2011, 05:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi everyone! First I want to say how much I appreciate having this outlet to come to whenever I have questions - y'all are so helpful, and with Stella being my first dog, you're such a great resource!!

I have an appointment to get Stella spayed on Friday and I have a few questions about it. First off, she'll be a little over 5 and a half months at that time - in y'alls opinion, is that an okay age to get her spayed? The vet highly suggested getting her spayed before 6 months, but I just feel like she is still my baby (well of course she is!), she's already nearly 6 pounds so she's not tiny compared to some other maltese, but I still feel like she's so little!

And second, I'm planning on dropping her off about 7:30 am and then picking her up around 3:30-4 (Depending on work). I'm sure I'll get some instructions from the vet when I pick her up, but what sort of things should I have ready for her, what should I do with her when I get her home? She is crate trained and loves her crate - should I put her in there to sleep or keep her out in the living room with me or wherever I am? And will she be okay sleeping in her crate all night by herself?

Thanks for your help - Stella is my first dog I've ever been completely responsible for and I'm just so worried about taking her for her first surgery!

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Old 10-04-2011, 07:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The most important consideration regarding the time to spay is whether or not she has retained baby teeth. Malts frequently need to have some teeth pulled so that the new ones will come in straight. MiMi had four teeth pulled at the time she was spayed. She was six months old. It is also a good time to have her micro-chipped if her breeder didn't already do it.
I would keep her comfortable where you can keep an eye on her for a while. I let MiMi sleep in her crate that night, but it was right next to my bed.
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I agree about the baby teeth. Have your vet check for retained teeth. I had Bonnie spayed at 6 months, but I can't remember if she had any baby teeth left. (Gosh, it's been so long ago!)

Go with what your vet says about picking her up. I do remember that when Bonnie was spayed, she spent the night at the vets. I have mixed feeling about this - on one hand, it may be better for her to be there overnight to keep her calm (at home she may be tempted to run around too much). On the other hand, some mommies and daddies like to have their pup home, and that's that.

One thing I would add, is to get a baby onesie and cut a hole for her tail. This may discourage her from licking/scratching her incision site.
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Old 10-04-2011, 08:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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As Sylvia mentioned, it is good to have any retained baby teeth pulled at the time she is spayed -- and if she isn't microchipped, it's the perfect time to get that done too.

You really want to make certain that she's spayed prior to her first "season". I usually spay at 6 months, but it also depends on how much the fluff weighs. Since your baby is 6 lbs, it's OK to go forward with the surgery. I've had to postpone the spay on ones that are especially tiny.

She will probably be sleepy when you bring her home and this may or may not last a couple of days. Just let her rest, but remember that she may be hungry as they will have withhold food from about 6:00 - 7:00 the night before the spay. I usually give boiled chicken breast and white rice the first couple of days after surgery so that as the meds can bother the tummy.

She also may not have a poop for a couple of days after surgery due to the meds. Not unusual.

Here are the big things to think about:

1. You will not be able to bath her for about 10 days after the surgery, so make sure she has a bath the night before the surgery.

2. Make certain that you get pain meds from your Vet when you pick her up. If your Vet doesn't give any to you -- INSIST on them. Even if your baby doesn't seem to be in pain -- she may be, as dogs hide their pain well. You should have 3-5 days of pain meds. They will probably be in a syringe and you can just give to her orally. Much easier than pills. (The syringe won't have a needle -- you'll just squeeze the meds into the baby's mouth each day).

3. You want to make certain that your baby doesn't bother (chew on) her stitches. Some never do and some are real chewers. The Vet may suggest an e-collar, but most of us use premie baby onesies that you get at Walmart or Target. Just cut a small place for her tail. You will need to take the onesie off of her for her to go potty. You just want to make certain that she can't get to her stitches. She might only need to wear this for the first 2-3 days. Just make certain she isn't interested in licking or chewing the stitches.

4. And here's the hardest thing -- you'll want to try to keep her quiet for the first couple of days. It's usually very hard to do with a puppy. Just mostly want to make certain that she doesn't injure the stitches. My Lacie "milked" her spay for days and had me carry her everywhere. My Tilly wanted to play as soon as she got home. Like humans -- each fluff is different.

Guys -- it's been a while since I had a baby spayed. Did I miss anything?
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As Sylvia mentioned, it is good to have any retained baby teeth pulled at the time she is spayed -- and if she isn't microchipped, it's the perfect time to get that done too.

You really want to make certain that she's spayed prior to her first "season". I usually spay at 6 months, but it also depends on how much the fluff weighs. Since your baby is 6 lbs, it's OK to go forward with the surgery. I've had to postpone the spay on ones that are especially tiny.

She will probably be sleepy when you bring her home and this may or may not last a couple of days. Just let her rest, but remember that she may be hungry as they will have withhold food from about 6:00 - 7:00 the night before the spay. I usually give boiled chicken breast and white rice the first couple of days after surgery so that as the meds can bother the tummy.

She also may not have a poop for a couple of days after surgery due to the meds. Not unusual.

Here are the big things to think about:

1. You will not be able to bath her for about 10 days after the surgery, so make sure she has a bath the night before the surgery.

2. Make certain that you get pain meds from your Vet when you pick her up. If your Vet doesn't give any to you -- INSIST on them. Even if your baby doesn't seem to be in pain -- she may be, as dogs hide their pain well. You should have 3-5 days of pain meds. They will probably be in a syringe and you can just give to her orally. Much easier than pills. (The syringe won't have a needle -- you'll just squeeze the meds into the baby's mouth each day).

3. You want to make certain that your baby doesn't bother (chew on) her stitches. Some never do and some are real chewers. The Vet may suggest an e-collar, but most of us use premie baby onesies that you get at Walmart or Target. Just cut a small place for her tail. You will need to take the onesie off of her for her to go potty. You just want to make certain that she can't get to her stitches. She might only need to wear this for the first 2-3 days. Just make certain she isn't interested in licking or chewing the stitches.

4. And here's the hardest thing -- you'll want to try to keep her quiet for the first couple of days. It's usually very hard to do with a puppy. Just mostly want to make certain that she doesn't injure the stitches. My Lacie "milked" her spay for days and had me carry her everywhere. My Tilly wanted to play as soon as she got home. Like humans -- each fluff is different.

Guys -- it's been a while since I had a baby spayed. Did I miss anything?
Perfect advice -- this ought to be "stickied" in the Matlese Health forum. Maybe one of the Mods could do that.
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Old 10-05-2011, 02:54 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think most of your questions have been answered well.
Such a great forum, so much good advice.
So not much to add except,
Make sure your vet does pre-op blood work.
And bring a secure carrier for the car ride home.
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I have an additional question to add here, on this sticky, so I hope that's ok!

Has anyone ever been turned down by their vets for spaying? I have been m.i.a. on SM for a while now because everything has gone fine with Misto, my little girl. But we have gone to 3 vets who all said no to spaying her, saying she was under their weight minimum. The thing is, is she is 15 months old now, and still 2 pounds. She hasn't grown for some time now.

What additional concerns should I vocalize to the specialist we are seeing next week? What are the extra dangers because of her size-- is that the main concern? I am still unsure why the vets I went to said no.

Thanks for any advice!!
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Old 10-08-2011, 12:13 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I have an additional question to add here, on this sticky, so I hope that's ok!

Has anyone ever been turned down by their vets for spaying? I have been m.i.a. on SM for a while now because everything has gone fine with Misto, my little girl. But we have gone to 3 vets who all said no to spaying her, saying she was under their weight minimum. The thing is, is she is 15 months old now, and still 2 pounds. She hasn't grown for some time now.

What additional concerns should I vocalize to the specialist we are seeing next week? What are the extra dangers because of her size-- is that the main concern? I am still unsure why the vets I went to said no.

Thanks for any advice!!
Well geez, they should have given you a reason more than her size. Did they do blood work prior to? They actually do and should. I know shelters, and not that I agree with this, but their rule of them is 8 weeks, 2 pounds.

My vet goes by their teeth and age. Ana is 3 pds 3 ounces at going on 7 months. Two pounds is small, but still I would really want some blood work done, if they have not already.

Also, SM helped me, with using baby onesies, for when they come home. I turned in backwards, cut a whole out for the tail, and then would open it for potty time. This really helped them completely not lick their insicion. By day 3, they were so used to wearing the onesies, they forgot about their insicion, and I rolled it up to their tummies.
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More importantly though, seriously, I would want a much better explanation, further guidance from the vet/s instead of just turning you away. Perhaps they did, I don't know. Blood work is very important, so I would make sure that is done, if you have not already.

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I have heard that from other posters, that the pup is too small. We had a vet on the forum who has said that's rubbish - vets operate on hamsters! I would call around before visiting more vets and spending the money on an office call. Maybe another poster will chime on who knows more about that (Jackie! Please help!).

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I have heard that from other posters, that the pup is too small. We had a vet on the forum who has said that's rubbish - vets operate on hamsters! I would call around before visiting more vets and spending the money on an office call. Maybe another poster will chime on who knows more about that (Jackie! Please help!).

Good luck.
Linda I agree as well, that's rubbish. Maybe the vets don't feel qualified enough, and then they shouldn't do the spay. Yes, search for vets that specialize in smaller breeds.
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