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Old 07-29-2019, 06:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So my little doggie isn’t well ,

Now a bit of a backstory , she had 2 puppies about 2 years ago , we kept the smallest one and she passed away approx a month ago to pancreatitis , sepsis , acute infection , we were heartbroken but at least we still had one ,

Took Katie to get her shots , approx 2 weeks later we had to take her back to get the second part of the vaccination but she has been sick since ,

Took her to the vet on a Monday , got tablets and a steroid injection and she seemed fine until Friday night , she was groaning in pain and a high temp , off to the emergency vet kept in over the weekend on iv and antibiotic and blood test and ultrasound , suspected pancreatitis sent home Monday with a diet of low fat nuts and chicken and antibiotics , all going well again until last Friday night temperature back up and shaking ,

Took her to the vet Saturday morning who gave me painkillers these worked for Saturday but Sunday she was back shaking went to emergency vet last night and he gave her a steroid injection , perfect last night , another ultrasound today to rule out a shadow that was seen before it’s no longer there thank god

Took bloods today and they are being sent off to another lab for testing ,

They are putting it down as a FUO fever of unknown origin , and if blood tests come back ok they are talking of referral for more testing or a course of steroids we are at our wits end ,

Has anyone ever experienced anything like this ?

Everything seems normal except the temperature keeps spiking , my mother thinks it could be grief I’d love to hear of any experiences you might have

She is flying since she got the steroids but my vet seems to not like using them
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Iím so sorry Katie isnít well.
I would suggest the vet do a Spec CPL test if the pancreatitis test comes back normal. It is much more sensitive in dx pancreatitis.
I have one who has IBD/chronic pancreatitis. Her symptoms were the same, shaking and fever. This was her only symptoms at the beginning. She went over a year of not being correctly diagnosed.
I will say this, prednisone is so much harder for our small breed to tolerate. It almost killed my girl. She deteriorated much quicker on prednisone than the disease itself.
There is a drug called budesonide. Itís a steroid thatís works strictly in the gut, so much better tolerated and a whole less side effects. I would suggest that if itís iBD or pancreatitis related, I would ask about this vs. prednisone.
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Thanks for that advice I’ll run it by the vet when I’m talking to her tomoro , she seems to think it’s not pancreatitis anymore as the antibiotics didn’t cure it she was on 2 for a week , baytril & cephacare and the fever was still there with those , the shaking was severe and the vet put this down to the temperature being up

We are going to try and avoid the steroids if at all possible
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Antibiotics is not typically giving for pancreatitis. It’s low diet, budesonide and pain meds, IV fluids.
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I’m sorry your baby is sick! Many of our little ones have reactions to vaccines. To reduce the risk of reaction, best thing is no more than one shot at a time and at least three weeks between shots. You can research how to do a vaccine detox and see if that helps.
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Chrissy was diagnosed as having Pancreatitis a few years ago. She had to be put on the lowest fat and protein diet which fortunately did help her. I was so sorry to read your post and hope that your little Katie starts to feel better and will be sending thoughts and prayers your way for all concerned. Please keep us posted when you get the chance to do so.
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I’ll keep ye posted once we get bloods back , can someone who might know tell me the effects of prednisone , they are treating her with this to stop the fever until we get bloods back this evening ,

I have a feeling the bloods will come back normal and it’s either taking her for a referral for further testing or a course of steroids I honestly don’t know what to do ,

Could the FUO be from grief of losing the other dog ?
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Maggie was diagnosed with Addison's Disease about four years ago. Her symptoms were refusing to eat, shaking, lethargic, weakness in back end. She did not have a fever. Addison's would be suspected through bloodwork results if the sodium levels are low and the potassium levels are high. If suspected, an ACTH test can be administered which will give a definite diagnossis if it's Addison's. Only problem in your case is if the dog has been taking Prednisone, the results can be skewed. It's probably not Addison's, but important to rule out because it can be a killer if not diagnosed. Symptoms often are brought on by stress.
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Iíll keep ye posted once we get bloods back , can someone who might know tell me the effects of prednisone , they are treating her with this to stop the fever until we get bloods back this evening ?
Prednisone side effects

Increased thirst
Frequent urination
Increased appetite
Slower wound healing or infection due to suppressed immune system
Vomiting
Diarrhea
Aggression or behavioral changes
Lethargy

My girl got all of the above. She was so weak, I had to carry and hold her to potty. Her weight plummeted and she was wasting away, her mange exploded.
My vet and ER insisted I euthanize her.
Once I brought her to a new specialist who understood small breeds, all treatment was replaced and she turned around for the good.
Itís important you find the the right doctor before you waste tens of thousands of $$$ like I did and the dog spirals downhill and goes undiagnosed.
Vaccinations can certainly bring on many auto immune disease. It did in one of my girls.
Pat brought something to my attention. I remember them testing my girl for Cushings, due to high fever/shaking. Itís the opposite of Addisons. That might be something you mention as well and I still wldnt rule out pancreatitis. The treatment your dog is on would not be the treatment used to dx pancreatitis, nor would it help the condition.
Hope this helps.
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Prednisone side effects

Increased thirst
Frequent urination
Increased appetite
Slower wound healing or infection due to suppressed immune system
Vomiting
Diarrhea
Aggression or behavioral changes
Lethargy

My girl got all of the above. She was so weak, I had to carry and hold her to potty. Her weight plummeted and she was wasting away, her mange exploded.
My vet and ER insisted I euthanize her.
Once I brought her to a new specialist who understood small breeds, all treatment was replaced and she turned around for the good.
Itís important you find the the right doctor before you waste tens of thousands of $$$ like I did and the dog spirals downhill and goes undiagnosed.
Vaccinations can certainly bring on many auto immune disease. It did in one of my girls.
Pat brought something to my attention. I remember them testing my girl for Cushings, due to high fever/shaking. Itís the opposite of Addisons. That might be something you mention as well and I still wldnt rule out pancreatitis. The treatment your dog is on would not be the treatment used to dx pancreatitis, nor would it help the condition.
Hope this helps.

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