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Old 01-11-2020, 03:35 PM   #11 (permalink)
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As far as Crate training is concerned, it has served its purpose very well for us with all of our puppies regarding the house breaking issue. And far as sleeping with any of our animals, once they are completely housebroken, they do sleep with us. Our Laci who will be 7 months and is very tiny is still sleeping in her Crate during the night since she apparently is very comfortable there. Guess we all do have our different opinions and that's fine. Whatever works!!
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Old 01-11-2020, 03:53 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Lisi often moves from right up next to me under the duvet after 10 mins. as she gets hot---she is a "hot dog!" She has never been able to tolerate heat. She sleeps on a towel between us & Kitzi sleeps right next to me almost pushing me off the bed! Lisi comes back in the early AM!
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Old 01-11-2020, 09:09 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think crate training is a bit mean, but that’s only my opinion. My family and extended family have always welcomed our furry family as one of us. I mostly work from home, so I’m training her to get used to staying alone by only leaving her for fifteen minutes to start with and eventually will work my way up. I normally leave her in the foyer and kitchen so she has ample amount of room to run around in.
All I can say is good luck and please read all you can about dog training. There is nothing "mean" at all about crate training. My dogs have happily gone into their crates voluntarily throughout the day to sleep, as it is their safe, cozy space.

It is a lot easier to get more lenient with a well-trained dog later on than it is to get good behavior down the road from a dog that wasn't trained well early on. (That was one of the points of the article I linked, when it said to have them sleep in a crate as a puppy, and when they're older you can sometimes have themmin your bed if you want. They will be able to sleep either place, not demand or expect to sleep in your bed).

I'm afraid you may be setting your new pup up for separation anxiety, what with you being with her all day working from home, and all night with her sleeping in your bed. I say this not as an attack, but out of concern, truly.
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In all honesty, all dogs are different. I have had maltese since 1971 & I have never crated a dog. I know some people find that really is the way to go, but I just never felt comfortable doing it. I did some crate offering & for what I did, it worked w/Kitzi but not Lisi, but I also did not like the idea of putting them in a crate if they did not need it. I was home too, and it did not affect separation anxiety for us. Again, I fully respect that if a person has to be gone a lot & they feel comfy w/that, then they should do what they can manage. For me, I felt much better leaving Kitzi in the kitchen w/a gate & tile floors & a pee pad & his open crate. For Lisi it was entirely different---I am not sure why but she went CRAZY when confined---in fact, she still does (we got K at 3 months & Lisi at 5). She is the only dog I have EVER had to give an anxiety drug when I travel due to being confined, but again she came to us w/this fear. Can I tell you how many maltese I have had???? I am almost 75 yrs. old & got my first maltese in 1971! I personally appreciate that there are many different ways in which to train a dog. What is helpful to one dog is anathema to another. I appreciate the fact that while I am fully committed to my own way, it may not be best for another. The important thing, I believe is that we are consistent w/the method we choose & the pup will adjust to that.
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In all honesty, all dogs are different. I have had maltese since 1971 & I have never crated a dog. I know some people find that really is the way to go, but I just never felt comfortable doing it. I did some crate offering & for what I did, it worked w/Kitzi but not Lisi, but I also did not like the idea of putting them in a crate if they did not need it. I was home too, and it did not affect separation anxiety for us. Again, I fully respect that if a person has to be gone a lot & they feel comfy w/that, then they should do what they can manage. For me, I felt much better leaving Kitzi in the kitchen w/a gate & tile floors & a pee pad & his open crate. For Lisi it was entirely different---I am not sure why but she went CRAZY when confined---in fact, she still does (we got K at 3 months & Lisi at 5). She is the only dog I have EVER had to give an anxiety drug when I travel due to being confined, but again she came to us w/this fear. Can I tell you how many maltese I have had???? I am almost 75 yrs. old & got my first maltese in 1971! I personally appreciate that there are many different ways in which to train a dog. What is helpful to one dog is anathema to another. I appreciate the fact that while I am fully committed to my own way, it may not be best for another. The important thing, I believe is that we are consistent w/the method we choose & the pup will adjust to that.
Wow, you must have a heart filled with Maltese memories! How many have you had?

You are right, there are different ways that work for different dogs. But I do hate for anyone to think that it is "mean" to crate train. I guess if used excessively or improperly, it could be mean, but I have never encountered that.
Oddly (well, it seems odd to me), Zita HATES her x-pen. She wails the most horrific sound when I put her in it (someone told me she sounded like an air raid siren!) But she is perfectly happy in her crate. I would think she would like the extra space of the x-pen, but nope.
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I want to thank everyone for their input, it’s good to read different styles of puppy upbringing, I will be taking bits of advice from everyone and implementing them.
I will be purchasing a travel carrier and will try and get Belle used to it as I travel 2-3 times a year (for a month or two) so I want her to be comfortable and well acquainted with her travel bag (not sure what the technical term is).
At the moment I do mostly spend all my time with her, but she’s only been with me for a week. Once she’s gotten used to the house I will start training her to be comfortable alone, even if it’s just for a couple of
Once again, thank you all! Your advice was greatly appreciated!😊
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In all honesty, all dogs are different. I have had maltese since 1971 & I have never crated a dog. I know some people find that really is the way to go, but I just never felt comfortable doing it. I did some crate offering & for what I did, it worked w/Kitzi but not Lisi, but I also did not like the idea of putting them in a crate if they did not need it. I was home too, and it did not affect separation anxiety for us. Again, I fully respect that if a person has to be gone a lot & they feel comfy w/that, then they should do what they can manage. For me, I felt much better leaving Kitzi in the kitchen w/a gate & tile floors & a pee pad & his open crate. For Lisi it was entirely different---I am not sure why but she went CRAZY when confined---in fact, she still does (we got K at 3 months & Lisi at 5). She is the only dog I have EVER had to give an anxiety drug when I travel due to being confined, but again she came to us w/this fear. Can I tell you how many maltese I have had???? I am almost 75 yrs. old & got my first maltese in 1971! I personally appreciate that there are many different ways in which to train a dog. <img src="https://spoiledmaltese.com/forum/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" border="0" alt="" title="&#x1f44d;" class="inlineimg" /> What is helpful to one dog is anathema to another. I appreciate the fact that while I am fully committed to my own way, it may not be best for another. The important thing, I believe is that we are consistent w/the method we choose & the pup will adjust to that.<img src="https://spoiledmaltese.com/forum/images/smilies/wub.gif" border="0" alt="" title="" class="inlineimg" />
Wow, you must have a heart filled with Maltese memories! How many have you had?

You are right, there are different ways that work for different dogs. But I do hate for anyone to think that it is "mean" to crate train. I guess if used excessively or improperly, it could be mean, but I have never encountered that.
Oddly (well, it seems odd to me), Zita HATES her x-pen. She wails the most horrific sound when I put her in it (someone told me she sounded like an air raid siren!) But she is perfectly happy in her crate. I would think she would like the extra space of the x-pen, but nope.
Oh, I’m sorry if my opinion sounded to harsh, my intention wasn’t to hurt anybody’s feelings. I do appreciate you sharing your experience, thank you for that.&#x1f60a;
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Crate training isn't mean; in fact, crating may be necessary at some point for the health and well being of your dog. In an emergency situation where you aren't available or where your dog needs to be hospitalized, she should be comfortable with staying in a small space without being anxious or panicking. There are so many "what ifs" about emergencies, that getting her used to a crate early on can be a life saver down the road.

Mine were crate trained very early. I haven't used an actual crate in years, but when we ride in the car, they are in SleepyPod carriers strapped into the back seat so they stay safe if I have to brake suddenly or if we're in an accident. I have a "playpen" they stay in if we're in a hotel and I have to leave them alone in the room, even for a few minutes. I'm a huge advocate of crate training so that life is easier for all of you down the road.
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Crate training isn't mean; in fact, crating may be necessary at some point for the health and well being of your dog. In an emergency situation where you aren't available or where your dog needs to be hospitalized, she should be comfortable with staying in a small space without being anxious or panicking. There are so many "what ifs" about emergencies, that getting her used to a crate early on can be a life saver down the road.

Mine were crate trained very early. I haven't used an actual crate in years, but when we ride in the car, they are in SleepyPod carriers strapped into the back seat so they stay safe if I have to brake suddenly or if we're in an accident. I have a "playpen" they stay in if we're in a hotel and I have to leave them alone in the room, even for a few minutes. I'm a huge advocate of crate training so that life is easier for all of you down the road.
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